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	<title>Comments on: the post-release post</title>
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		<title>By: jevans</title>
		<link>http://whacked.net/2010/01/04/the-post-release-post/comment-page-2/#comment-103136</link>
		<dc:creator>jevans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 05:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I &lt;em&gt;still&lt;/em&gt; can&#039;t believe no bookmarks - it&#039;s just lame :-(&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <em>still</em> can&#8217;t believe no bookmarks &#8211; it&#8217;s just lame <img src='http://whacked.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://whacked.net/2010/01/04/the-post-release-post/comment-page-2/#comment-103075</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I can&#039;t believe that the song bird development team (more like morons) have removed the playlist export support. Now what is the use of it. I don&#039;t want it to just be able to sync with Itune&#039;s I want to use songbird to replace it. By removing ipod support and playlist export songbird has become noting but a wast of system resources. Goodbye songbird hello banshee. not only can it export playlists, I can burn a damn CD and sync to my MP3 player with out secondary program like Itunes.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe that the song bird development team (more like morons) have removed the playlist export support. Now what is the use of it. I don&#8217;t want it to just be able to sync with Itune&#8217;s I want to use songbird to replace it. By removing ipod support and playlist export songbird has become noting but a wast of system resources. Goodbye songbird hello banshee. not only can it export playlists, I can burn a damn CD and sync to my MP3 player with out secondary program like Itunes.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Disappointed</title>
		<link>http://whacked.net/2010/01/04/the-post-release-post/comment-page-2/#comment-102900</link>
		<dc:creator>Disappointed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 14:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s pretty disappointing that this media player decided to take such an obviously terrible route, with not supporting anything. Well, it was a good concept but like so, so many things out there this great concept happened to be headed by a bunch of absolute morons...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty disappointing that this media player decided to take such an obviously terrible route, with not supporting anything. Well, it was a good concept but like so, so many things out there this great concept happened to be headed by a bunch of absolute morons&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jenni X</title>
		<link>http://whacked.net/2010/01/04/the-post-release-post/comment-page-2/#comment-102013</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenni X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 19:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Adding my own to the chorus telling you guys that if I have to use friggin&#039; iTunes, SongBird is USELESS! Ta Ta for now. Maybe i&#039;ll check back in a couple of years to see if you&#039;ve extracted your recto-cranial impaction.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding my own to the chorus telling you guys that if I have to use friggin&#8217; iTunes, SongBird is USELESS! Ta Ta for now. Maybe i&#8217;ll check back in a couple of years to see if you&#8217;ve extracted your recto-cranial impaction.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chris Parker</title>
		<link>http://whacked.net/2010/01/04/the-post-release-post/comment-page-2/#comment-101423</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was looking for a iTunes alternative to syncing my iPod and media management and google listed Song Bird as #2 which also supported mac. I downloaded the program to find out that it is no longer supported and with the lack of other obvious features I have to say that.....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;SONG BIRD IS USELESS&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And should be kept locked up until it becomes a more developed program and wont have to depend on other programs to function as a media program.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking for a iTunes alternative to syncing my iPod and media management and google listed Song Bird as #2 which also supported mac. I downloaded the program to find out that it is no longer supported and with the lack of other obvious features I have to say that&#8230;..</p>

<p>SONG BIRD IS USELESS</p>

<p>And should be kept locked up until it becomes a more developed program and wont have to depend on other programs to function as a media program.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://whacked.net/2010/01/04/the-post-release-post/comment-page-2/#comment-101168</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 10:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hello guys, Songbird until last revision WAS (-sorry i think you go wrong way actually-) really THE multi-platform solution to manage music library. Even if there were some weakness (ID3 V2.3 support for main compatibility with all other library who doesn&#039;t support 2.4 yet...)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I used MP3 format for its versatility between several computers in my home (HTPC - desktop - laptop) using Ubuntu / vista / windows 7. 
From my side, I was using Songbird to manage visually all my music library and also to let my wife to sync easily with her ipod and myself with my windows phone. 
For listening on my Hifi, i&#039;m using Windows media center 7 that still fully working for multimedia use (music-film-tv recorder) with remote controller and nice skin.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Since you don&#039;t support ipod anymore, i really think to switch to another system (even that is less useful but more versatile!). 
I cannot continue to manage several libraries even sync them on different platforms as it is really more and more complex! &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Main need for people is platform and control versatility. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Until last revision, you were fully working in that direction supporting all kind of equipments and it was great. 
I fully understand the fact that you have difficulties to support new equipment from Apple. But considering that previous equipments were supported, why not keeping this marvelous function as it was really working well! My understanding is that the REAL REASON is not Apple but Songbird changes with this new revision. Your comments seems not fair at all and becoming open-source with no other support seems really to easy!!! How could you stop to work with the main music portable reader solution on the market?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Unfortunatelly, i have updated my songbird (as usually because i was really confident) and now i feel that you are working in the same way as &quot;Apple&quot;, without searching to keep versatility. Going through this way, I think you will devellop your own songbird music download platform with songbird DRM in the future weeks!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As I already wrote: Versatility is the future of multimedia use. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If not, I would prefer to keep listening my CD collection directly as i did in the 90s (20 years back). All the song still well organised on each CD and the album cover is with good resolution and nice paper!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do you remember what Free and liberty means? This is reason why I prefer mozilla to other navigators. Hope that you will correct this &quot;bug&quot; quickly and come back to be the real music management solution for all users.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello guys, Songbird until last revision WAS (-sorry i think you go wrong way actually-) really THE multi-platform solution to manage music library. Even if there were some weakness (ID3 V2.3 support for main compatibility with all other library who doesn&#8217;t support 2.4 yet&#8230;)</p>

<p>I used MP3 format for its versatility between several computers in my home (HTPC &#8211; desktop &#8211; laptop) using Ubuntu / vista / windows 7. 
From my side, I was using Songbird to manage visually all my music library and also to let my wife to sync easily with her ipod and myself with my windows phone. 
For listening on my Hifi, i&#8217;m using Windows media center 7 that still fully working for multimedia use (music-film-tv recorder) with remote controller and nice skin.</p>

<p>Since you don&#8217;t support ipod anymore, i really think to switch to another system (even that is less useful but more versatile!). 
I cannot continue to manage several libraries even sync them on different platforms as it is really more and more complex! </p>

<p>Main need for people is platform and control versatility. </p>

<p>Until last revision, you were fully working in that direction supporting all kind of equipments and it was great. 
I fully understand the fact that you have difficulties to support new equipment from Apple. But considering that previous equipments were supported, why not keeping this marvelous function as it was really working well! My understanding is that the REAL REASON is not Apple but Songbird changes with this new revision. Your comments seems not fair at all and becoming open-source with no other support seems really to easy!!! How could you stop to work with the main music portable reader solution on the market?</p>

<p>Unfortunatelly, i have updated my songbird (as usually because i was really confident) and now i feel that you are working in the same way as &#8220;Apple&#8221;, without searching to keep versatility. Going through this way, I think you will devellop your own songbird music download platform with songbird DRM in the future weeks!</p>

<p>As I already wrote: Versatility is the future of multimedia use. </p>

<p>If not, I would prefer to keep listening my CD collection directly as i did in the 90s (20 years back). All the song still well organised on each CD and the album cover is with good resolution and nice paper!</p>

<p>Do you remember what Free and liberty means? This is reason why I prefer mozilla to other navigators. Hope that you will correct this &#8220;bug&#8221; quickly and come back to be the real music management solution for all users.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mathew</title>
		<link>http://whacked.net/2010/01/04/the-post-release-post/comment-page-2/#comment-101000</link>
		<dc:creator>mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;im hopping on the ipod support bandwagon too
i running on linux. when i updated to ubuntu 9.10 on my desk top, songbird failed to run with errors on startup, when i updated songbird the ipod support no no longer worked! even trying to completely un-install songbird and installing a previous version failed to run ipod support! im not going to update my laptop which is running ubuntu 9.09 for precisely this reason, i can properly sync with my ipod. apple dont have an itunes for linux nor will linux users actually use it, but it will not run under a windows emulator (wine), not that id install itunes anyway. ive tried using rhythembox and banshee and a few other mediaplayers, we need ipod support returned to songbird&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im hopping on the ipod support bandwagon too
i running on linux. when i updated to ubuntu 9.10 on my desk top, songbird failed to run with errors on startup, when i updated songbird the ipod support no no longer worked! even trying to completely un-install songbird and installing a previous version failed to run ipod support! im not going to update my laptop which is running ubuntu 9.09 for precisely this reason, i can properly sync with my ipod. apple dont have an itunes for linux nor will linux users actually use it, but it will not run under a windows emulator (wine), not that id install itunes anyway. ive tried using rhythembox and banshee and a few other mediaplayers, we need ipod support returned to songbird</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: w</title>
		<link>http://whacked.net/2010/01/04/the-post-release-post/comment-page-2/#comment-100987</link>
		<dc:creator>w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well put Tony P.  i was especially p.o.&#039;d about finding out about dropping ipod support only after i updated.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;yeah i could read about the update before i accept it but that certainly was not an expected issue.  and besides ... i couldn&#039;t NOT update forever.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;for now i am using rhythembox to update my ipod.  but thats only ok because i dont use playlists much.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;considering banshee ....&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well put Tony P.  i was especially p.o.&#8217;d about finding out about dropping ipod support only after i updated.</p>

<p>yeah i could read about the update before i accept it but that certainly was not an expected issue.  and besides &#8230; i couldn&#8217;t NOT update forever.  </p>

<p>for now i am using rhythembox to update my ipod.  but thats only ok because i dont use playlists much.</p>

<p>considering banshee &#8230;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tony Pace</title>
		<link>http://whacked.net/2010/01/04/the-post-release-post/comment-page-2/#comment-100980</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Pace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just wanted to add my voice to Tim&#039;s. Opensourcing the ipod plugin without anyone volunteering to maintain it was a bad idea and should be reconsidered. I&#039;m no programmer, but the hints about code complexity make it understandable that nobody is interested in jumping in. It looks like the only people with the competencies to deal with the problems are already on the main team.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Songbird looks nice and works well for the most part, but huge numbers of people have legacy ipods of various sorts, and breaking working functionality with a pushed, Vogon style update was a really, really dumb move. It leaves a legacy of distrust that will linger.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to add my voice to Tim&#8217;s. Opensourcing the ipod plugin without anyone volunteering to maintain it was a bad idea and should be reconsidered. I&#8217;m no programmer, but the hints about code complexity make it understandable that nobody is interested in jumping in. It looks like the only people with the competencies to deal with the problems are already on the main team.</p>

<p>Songbird looks nice and works well for the most part, but huge numbers of people have legacy ipods of various sorts, and breaking working functionality with a pushed, Vogon style update was a really, really dumb move. It leaves a legacy of distrust that will linger.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rone</title>
		<link>http://whacked.net/2010/01/04/the-post-release-post/comment-page-2/#comment-100979</link>
		<dc:creator>rone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;just wonder why songbird x functioning on w7 N&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just wonder why songbird x functioning on w7 N</p>]]></content:encoded>
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